tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post1479373331691018577..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Loftus on legalism: good or bad?Latin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-26480462590574277572013-09-22T06:24:44.860+01:002013-09-22T06:24:44.860+01:00I have encountered one such priest (visiting, not ...I have encountered one such priest (visiting, not resident) here in New York City. He would give Communion to those who were standing, but only on the tongue. So it's rare, but not absolutely unheard of. The broader point about it not being in any sense a practical problem, especially compared to the frequency of denial of Communion on the tongue or kneeling is true though.Samuel J. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766238466391394665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-45039592189828748482013-09-19T09:31:54.498+01:002013-09-19T09:31:54.498+01:00The same occurs with Pope Francis at Papal Masses ...The same occurs with Pope Francis at Papal Masses in Rome.Pétrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17539025631125425710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-59090226076259433762013-09-18T23:20:49.930+01:002013-09-18T23:20:49.930+01:00Quote Joseph Shaw: " who refuse to give Commu...Quote Joseph Shaw: " who refuse to give Communion in the hand to people standing, at the Ordinary Form. (There is no indication that he is talking about the EF.) I have never heard of such a thing; it is utterly incredible."<br /><br />It is indeed extremely rare. The only instance I can think of is when Pope Benedict distributed communion. Perhaps Loftus' target??!!DrMatthewDoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06631492275281667768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-25937767919260130222013-09-18T04:31:27.537+01:002013-09-18T04:31:27.537+01:00That is hilarious! A bus driver who drives lookin...That is hilarious! A bus driver who drives looking at the passengers. That explains a lot more than I think the good monsignor realizes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451085648709698116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-20386013970863379492013-09-17T21:16:33.292+01:002013-09-17T21:16:33.292+01:00It strikes me that Msgr Loftus really should check...It strikes me that Msgr Loftus really should check what he writes before he releases his words out into the wide blue yonder, or simply ask a kind friend to give it the once-over, a couple times even, just to be sure.<br /><br />Does anyone think he knows what he is writing ? Can he remember all the nonsense he has written ?<br /><br />OTH, it can be seen as rather entertaining, keep it up Monsignor !Jeremiah Methuselahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344139605953558862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-6547578958330564192013-09-17T19:47:39.466+01:002013-09-17T19:47:39.466+01:00The bold Mgr once( In the Scottish Catholic Observ...The bold Mgr once( In the Scottish Catholic Observer)likened the Priest to a bus driver. This was in the context of versus populum. Some wit wrote back that he preferred the driver of his buses to face the destination and not the passengers.Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15346801564305334415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-23185171131737351592013-09-17T18:44:32.996+01:002013-09-17T18:44:32.996+01:00“ the People of God who approach Holy Communion in...“ the People of God who approach Holy Communion in a united and adult manner”<br /><br /><br /><br />Sorry for bringing up the “P” word, “Pelagianism”, again when most people had consigned it back to wherever it came from, but Mr Loftus is really pushing it here.<br />Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-88831658380750485342013-09-17T18:15:43.460+01:002013-09-17T18:15:43.460+01:00Sadly, Msgr. Loftus is a living exemplar of the pr...Sadly, Msgr. Loftus is a living exemplar of the proposition that progressives in the Church could teach Torquemada a thing or two about intolerant insistence on uniformity of belief and practice.<br /><br />Like Dr. Shaw, I would be absolutely *astounded* to hear of *any* priest - outside an EF Mass - who refused a communicant Communion because they were standing, or in the hand. I get around a fair bit, and I have never once witnessed such a thing, not even by Ordinariate or very conservative priests. I have never heard of even a rumor of such. Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-22143890696337995442013-09-17T11:13:45.461+01:002013-09-17T11:13:45.461+01:00PS the last sentence in paragraph 3 begins with a ...PS the last sentence in paragraph 3 begins with a syntactical howler, such was the cloud of emotion in which I wrote. I cannot now edit it - please forgive it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-34103862641100502682013-09-17T11:10:15.312+01:002013-09-17T11:10:15.312+01:00Lofty makes me weep, truly. He is the victim of hi...Lofty makes me weep, truly. He is the victim of his own incoherent rhetoric.<br /><br />One thing that always gets me is the allegation that to be given Communion on the tongue while kneeling is to "infantalise" the communicant. If this be true... if... I fail utterly to see why it is to be deplored. <br /><br />In Psalm 81:10 we read "I am the Lord your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt. Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it." With what shall He fill it? He tells us in v16, "the finest of wheat" - an OBVIOUS prefiguring of the Eucharist. Fulfilled in Christ, we think of that remarkable Christological symbol of the pelican, feeding its young with its own blood: on the hand or direct to the mouth, I wonder?!<br /><br />And why this obsession with "adult faith" (which usually equates to wilful disobedience without the punishment a child would get)? Did Christ call us to be "adults" anywhere? No, quite the contrary - "Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." (Matt 18:3-4)<br /><br />I think we can all do the maths here.<br /><br />Liberals usually allege that Vatican II liberated scripture for the benefit of all Catholics, so that they could read it for the first time. I wish Lofty would exercise this "new" liberty himself.<br /><br />Sorry for my tone - he has put me in a bad mood. Thanks for your restrained and apposite critique.<br /><br />PaxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com