tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post2015535291887603245..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Was the true Council betrayed? Reply to 'Savoranola'Latin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-54403615057153473532013-06-12T09:19:34.758+01:002013-06-12T09:19:34.758+01:00Great article, I’ve always found it exasperating h...Great article, I’ve always found it exasperating how liberals point to the Council when they wish to justify moral and liturgical innovations and yet there is nothing in the Vatican II documents for them.Catholic cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09604560997245115948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-75005039829615363532013-06-11T22:23:38.827+01:002013-06-11T22:23:38.827+01:00I suspect I’ve said it before, if so, my apologies...I suspect I’ve said it before, if so, my apologies, but the answer is as has been advocated by Gherardini and Schneider.<br /><br />We must have at least a Syllabus of Errors condemning erroneous interpretation of the Vatican II documents, or better still or another Council, such as Trent, called after the failed 5th Lateran Council and the Protestant Reformation, to sort things out. Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-5551689336292404212013-06-11T21:54:46.502+01:002013-06-11T21:54:46.502+01:00Oh I thought Sav was being sarcastic. Do you think...Oh I thought Sav was being sarcastic. Do you think he was serious?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-33493972983978720142013-06-11T21:41:38.303+01:002013-06-11T21:41:38.303+01:00An absolutely excellent deconstruction of some pos...An absolutely excellent deconstruction of some post-conciliar myths, Dr Shaw. I have always thought that the so-called "Spirit of Vatican II" was the sort of spirit which should be buried at the nearest crossroads with a stake through its heart.<br /><br />Sorry you weren't able to join us on the Chartres Pilgrimage this year; although meteorologically awful, it was also spiritually wonderful!Jonathan Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03955408376728340845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-75895476410416203702013-06-11T13:45:35.540+01:002013-06-11T13:45:35.540+01:00Savonarola and others who lament the loss of the &...Savonarola and others who lament the loss of the "great inspiring vision of Vatican II" it seems have never read the texts themselves. When they criticize Benedict XVI's attempts to call us back to the actual texts, what they are doing in reality is showing contempt for the Magisterium of the Church and exhibiting preference for their own preconceived modernist fantasies of what the Council was about. <br /><br />The age of the sandal-wearing, tie-dyed, pot-smoking, hippy, pseudo-magisterium is over, and it will disappear for good once those reactionary dinosaurs who still worship the 1960's succumb to the biological solution which awaits us all. Once they are gone, all the Church will have left is the texts and the Acta - just like we have now for Vatican I, Trent and all the others. A much clearer perspective of Vatican II will then be available - it will be shorn of its useless accretions. <br /><br />Then will begin the task of clarifying the ambiguities which resulted from attempting to reconcile the irreconcilable. As Cardinal Kasper pointed out, they permit of too diverse an interpretation to be of earthly use to the Church. I have always thought, however, that one interpretive key which should be observed is the fact that every one of the Council Fathers would have sworn the Oath Against Modernism. We should assume their good faith when contextualizing their words within the constant Tradition of the Church. If they were not in good faith, then their words count for nothing anyway.Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.com