tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post3598087124117280029..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Was Constantine the Great a Clericalist?Latin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-18921365883949981282018-09-24T15:57:42.572+01:002018-09-24T15:57:42.572+01:00The headmaster of the school where I teach has con...The headmaster of the school where I teach has considerably higher status than I do; and my status is higher than the students I teach. Are they therefore second-class citizens of the school? In one sense, yes: the Head (and all staff) have authority over the students. In another sense, of course not: we wouldn't be there at all if we weren't serving them and promoting their education.<br />Sue Simshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976537787708670241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-19739015098867083442015-10-06T09:17:51.977+01:002015-10-06T09:17:51.977+01:00Is higher the right word for the priestly vocation...Is higher the right word for the priestly vocation? If you think priesthood is somehow higher than the lay state, it looks as if laypeople must second-class members of the Church. Is that really what we believe?Savonarolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547523172291007631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-46084569791577728742015-10-03T22:59:19.433+01:002015-10-03T22:59:19.433+01:00Thank you for a great read Dr. Shaw!
I think its ...Thank you for a great read Dr. Shaw!<br /><br />I think its not just Russel Shaw that has a problem with the idea of <i>contempt for the world</i>. Perhaps the difficulty in seeing the clerical vocation (+ calling to be monks etc.) as higher than the lay calling is also something that stems from it.<br /><br />The general idea post-Vatican II seems to be that we should love the world, be as one with the world, be more concerned for the temporal development and so forth. The ideal priest tends to be seen as one who takes part in the ways of the world (watching all the movies, getting an iphone, being on Facebook, cracks jokes making fun of Catholic traditions or Catholic piety etc.<b>i.e.</b> hip) while still being a priest. Perhaps this is just an anecdotal observation but immorality tends to get highlighted, as rare as it is to first even hear about something as immoral, as impeding some worldly progress rather than having eternal/spiritual ramifications. <br /><br />In any case, it would seem that what we really have on our hands is a problem of jealousy and pride and trying to normalize it under some other banner. Lay people seem to have some real beef that a priest is doing something higher than them and that he does have the potential of advancing in holiness (if he does put the effort). Anthony Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16353755791149814949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-16155416605053226042015-10-02T07:39:24.264+01:002015-10-02T07:39:24.264+01:00The Catholic Mass was stabilised in essence by St ...The Catholic Mass was stabilised in essence by St Gregory the Great in the 6th century and that remains so today confirmed by St Pius V in the 16th century.<br /><br />The New Mass in 1969 was valid, there are after all several valid rites in the Church, but it has in practise been a disaster and the main reason for the melting away of the Church in the 20/21st centuries. So-called participation, has destroyed the essence of the Mass a Sacrifice and is now endangering belief in the Real Presence.<br /><br />The good news as far as I can see is that within 20/40/60 years, who knows, priests in the Traditional Orders will outnumber others and we will get back to the Catholic Mass again.<br /><br />One thing I would say is that the move to Constantinople made the Church so much more vulnerable to the savage 7th century assault from the new heresy of Islam and that misfortune is with us today in a greater form than ever. Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-49908128932506512502015-10-01T18:19:20.238+01:002015-10-01T18:19:20.238+01:00"One of the things RS doesn't like is the..."One of the things RS doesn't like is the idea that the clerical vocation is higher than the lay vocation. He says that this makes it sound as though the laity can't attain holiness."<br /><br />If this is accurate, it's an awfully tedious argument to make. "This ladder is taller than that one" doesn't mean that one is nevertheless sufficient to reach the roof.Sean W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10085184456489549231noreply@blogger.com