tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post3829759369655093361..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: A Church closed in on itselfLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-91283338135963851142013-11-13T18:50:47.674+00:002013-11-13T18:50:47.674+00:00"The problem is that having lost something wh..."The problem is that having lost something which could draw in the marginal Catholic and the outsider, what was gained was of benefit only to the insider."<br /><br />Waugh more or less predicted this in 1962 in "The Same Again, Please": "It is easy to see why some clergy would like us to show more consciousness of one another, more evidence of taking part in a social `group activity.' Ideally they are right but that is to presuppose a very much deeper spiritual life in private than most of us have achieved."<br /><br />It does seem to me that Pope Francis has mentioned, at least once, that worshiping God at mass is also a form of "going out of oneself" (in contrast to the more obvious approaches involving soup kitchens etc.). I don't know when or where he said that, though.<br /><br />-Ben DunlapAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-76069435932542178352013-10-24T21:55:45.750+01:002013-10-24T21:55:45.750+01:00"I sit on enough committees to know that, nec..."I sit on enough committees to know that, necessary as they may sometimes be, they are no way to evangelise."<br /><br />Amen to that!!! It is no coincidence that the greater the multiplication of committees in the Church of God, the more it comes to resemble the CofE and the more like savourless salt it becomes.Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-20598047501843658812013-10-24T14:43:40.257+01:002013-10-24T14:43:40.257+01:00Well said! Our message is:
Experience the Extraor...Well said! Our message is:<br /><br />Experience the Extraordinary.<br />The Mass of Tradition is the Mass of the Future!<br />Una Voce Miamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723055404617154345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-36210088087677633012013-10-22T21:25:06.811+01:002013-10-22T21:25:06.811+01:00“The Holy Father wants a Church which is not close...“The Holy Father wants a Church which is not closed in on itself”<br /><br />Yes. I’m sure the Holy Father wants a confidant, growing, secure Church, attracting many converts, comfortable with its liturgy, particularly the Mass. Well on the death of Pius XII, in 1958, it was there. But not anymore.<br /><br />It will be some time before the Holy Father, or anyone, sees such a Church again. The Church in the West, some fifty years on, what is left, is in a mess.<br /><br />I was brought up in a largely working class parish before Vatican II. The numerous congregation may not have been able to defend the finer points of their Faith, but they knew the basics. On the occasions they received Holy Communion, they did so properly and not “out of routine or vain glory, or human respect”. The majority of that congregation would be uncomfortable in today’s “inclusive” Mass, and indeed, I do not see them or their like anymore. <br /><br />The New Mass has been a failure. If we cannot retain our own, we cannot be missionaries. <br />Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-36237940971450188742013-10-22T17:49:14.969+01:002013-10-22T17:49:14.969+01:00"they are manifestations of an in-group, a gr..."they are manifestations of an in-group, a group of specially 'churchy' people".<br /><br />This is exactly what happens. The same handful of people control the parish and heaven forbid anyone encroach on their turf. This liberal approach does not increase participation or attract more people to church. In fact there certainly are numerous examples of the in-group driving away anyone who didn't comply with 'their' requirements.<br /><br />The progressive experiment has clearly failed. Let's return to the good old basics of our Catholic Faith and stop trying to create social welfare groups, which is really what liberal Catholicism is about - making ourselves feel good about we did!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07098007440868887687noreply@blogger.com