tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post3830068537329591312..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Liturgical conflict in BristolLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-2463178215153630042012-07-18T09:40:48.753+01:002012-07-18T09:40:48.753+01:00On the last point, it was his actions as Nuncio to...On the last point, it was his actions as Nuncio to France and as Patriarch of Venice which really show his preferences on such topics. The issue of vs. pop. celebration in the Roman bascilicas is a quite separate one - see the FIUV position paper:<br /><br />http://www.lmschairman.org/2012/04/fiuv-position-paper-4-liturgical.html<br /><br />Your other points would be more interesting if you gave reasons for your views.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-60549735776660415362012-07-18T00:21:57.938+01:002012-07-18T00:21:57.938+01:00" So while Clifton Cathedral is not to everyo..." So while Clifton Cathedral is not to everyone's taste it has a coherence and integrity "<br /><br />I must disagree; first with the idea that the 1970 Missal was designed to be celebrated like that, and secondly with the idea that Clifton Cathedral is anything other than a mess. Even the Wigwam is better-designed<br /><br />"The hyper-liberal liturgical experiment is something which by the very nature of things can work (at least superficially)"<br />Again, as a convinced Novus Ordo-goer, I must disagree strenuously. It doesn't work anywhere. Clifton Cathedral and the kind of liturgy it depends on is a disaster.<br /><br />"I've read also that he was reining in liturgical experimentation in his various posts before he was Pope with considerable zeal - Mass versus populum, for example."<br />If he was doing this in Rome, then he was in error. Mass versus populum - at least in the great Roman basilicas - is a venerable tradition..https://www.blogger.com/profile/04611694996611765479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-72652900530109537262011-08-18T08:04:41.678+01:002011-08-18T08:04:41.678+01:00Mass verses populum was IIRC counselled against by...Mass verses populum was IIRC counselled against by the Synod of Rome, on the eve of the Council.<br /><br />John XXIII also incorporated elements of the pre-reformed Holy Week.<br /><br />I think it was Cardinal Heenan who said it was a good thing that the pope died when he did so he didn't observe the way things developed.shanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-27666519897261305792011-08-16T20:47:28.171+01:002011-08-16T20:47:28.171+01:00Indeed! I've read also that he was reining in ...Indeed! I've read also that he was reining in liturgical experimentation in his various posts before he was Pope with considerable zeal - Mass versus populum, for example.Joseph Shawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-32602276309398111362011-08-16T20:20:07.995+01:002011-08-16T20:20:07.995+01:00John XXIII not only presided over this liturgy, he...John XXIII not only presided over this liturgy, he rejoiced in it. His diary entry for the day of his Coronation is brief, something like: Trumpets, fans - glorious!Fr Ray Blakenoreply@blogger.com