tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post3991195992975044034..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Feminisation in the 1960s: the policy aspect, and the way outLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-89185226123187153832016-08-17T13:11:37.042+01:002016-08-17T13:11:37.042+01:00You can't both say that there was no feminisat...You can't both say that there was no feminisation in the 1940s and 1950s, and say that the Church was feminised in the 12th century. Which is right?Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-48481486064910807302016-08-12T21:41:24.273+01:002016-08-12T21:41:24.273+01:00If Brown asserts that it is/was necessary to to be...If Brown asserts that it is/was necessary to to be Catholic, he is wrong. In my Jesuit parish ( 40s/50s ) with a huge altar boy contingent, femininity simply did not come into it.<br /><br />The Pauline liturgy, noticeable to my generation from the early 70s, ( we had other things to worry about such as jobs and and marriage ), was already banal and feminised, although that word would not have been used . Men were already losing interest. <br /><br />A good thesis is by Leon Podles tracing this effect as far back as the 12th century. But it is long, and so far, I have only skimmed.<br /><br />What is clear from our Catholic history is that Catholicism is a peaceful, but not passive religion. <br /><br />Martel's fierce Gallic warriors, Don John's eager boarders carrying their banner blessed by Pius V and Sobieski's heavy Lancers were Catholics, good or bad is not for me to say.<br /><br />The Crusading spirit is valid Catholicism and I suspect will be called on again in the near future.Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-65294605934288494832016-08-09T18:53:18.090+01:002016-08-09T18:53:18.090+01:00Traditional homiletics might well be offputting to...Traditional homiletics might well be offputting to someone accustomed to never hearing any reference to the Four Last Things from the pulpit. Which of course is the normative reality in most parishes throughout the West, sadly. <br /><br />Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-85166924273947616092016-08-09T11:20:41.923+01:002016-08-09T11:20:41.923+01:00I respectfully retract. This is not the right foru...I respectfully retract. This is not the right forum for this discussion. I will send you a letter instead. Apologies.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510804632640247600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-48796289458942351542016-08-09T11:17:16.091+01:002016-08-09T11:17:16.091+01:00Well I reject your generalisation, and if you don&...Well I reject your generalisation, and if you don't tell me who you are talking about then I can't assess the particular examples. You are being unfair: tarring all (or the 'usual') EF-saying priest with this accusation and not giving any verifyable evidence. Retract or substantiate, please.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-39925844227095892692016-08-09T11:08:13.595+01:002016-08-09T11:08:13.595+01:00That would be unfair... They are all fantastic pri...That would be unfair... They are all fantastic priests, very dedicated and I love them all but as someone who frequents both forms of the mass I have noticed a contrast in the preaching.is this a danger that traditionalist priests who fear that orthodoxy is under attack, can 'overdo' the legalistic need of 'getting it right' balanced against the freedom of Christ found in the Eucharist within orthodoxy itself? Its more of an observation than a criticism.. I continue to admire all who promote reverence and mystery.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510804632640247600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-754900839113386552016-08-09T10:56:54.343+01:002016-08-09T10:56:54.343+01:00Who are these priests?Who are these priests?Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-19373262034726918142016-08-09T10:54:36.584+01:002016-08-09T10:54:36.584+01:00I love the traditional mass but the sermons I hear...I love the traditional mass but the sermons I hear from priests who lovingly celebrate mass in this way are full of doom and gloom. The joy of Christ seems to be far away from their words. This is in stark contrast to the joy of the liturgy. What has gone wrong here?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510804632640247600noreply@blogger.com