tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post4310122221374208631..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Mass in Long Crendon tomorrow (28th Oct)Latin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-28221276093014076392017-10-31T16:35:21.275+00:002017-10-31T16:35:21.275+00:00I admit nothing of the kind. There's a clear d...I admit nothing of the kind. There's a clear difference between celebrating Mass in a building constructed for a neutral purpose (like a village hall) and one constructed for and used by 'heretics or schismatics' such as an Anglican church, a novus ordo church or an Orthodox church. The latter is forbidden by Canon Law and the former is not. Why should sedevacantists not appeal to Canon Law? St Pius X and Benedict XV were valid Popes so their legislation was and remains valid, unless abrogated by a future true Pope. Non una cum Masses would only be illicit if there were a reigning pontiff. They are not only not illicit, but actually mandatory in a time of sede vacante, which is what we maintain. Also, they are unarguably valid, unlike those LMS 'Masses' which are offered by 'priests' doubtfully ordained in the New Rite, or by 'bishops' invalidly consecrated in the New Rite. Canon Law, written in 1917, is, naturally silent on the papal claim of Jorge Bergoglio, or any of his post 1958 predecessors. Why are you so convinced he is the Pope, when you have publicly accused him of spreading heresy? How can a Pope do that? The Gates of Hell would have prevailed.sedelondonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13282326776240751174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-82619202011643280432017-10-31T09:06:33.908+00:002017-10-31T09:06:33.908+00:00I see, so you admit that 'for what purpose was...I see, so you admit that 'for what purpose was it built?' argument doesn't work, that's progress.<br /><br />And now you appeal to Canon Law. A desperate expedient for a sede vacantist! Well I think you'll find that under canon law your Masses are illicit, and the Pope is the Pope.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-87445883642496568172017-10-31T06:52:27.052+00:002017-10-31T06:52:27.052+00:00Dr Shaw, the 1917 Code of Canon Law states that pe...Dr Shaw, the 1917 Code of Canon Law states that permission can be granted for Mass to be celebrated outside a church but that 'it is not permitted to celebrate Mass in the temples of heretics or schismatics, even if at one time [they were] duly consecrated or blessed.' (Canon 823) Since the Catholic churches built for Catholic worship are occupied by a false religion, Catholics have no choice but to celebrate in unorthodox locations, as in other difficult times in the Church's history (for example Elizabethan England).sedelondonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13282326776240751174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-12060546938099316222017-10-30T23:55:40.434+00:002017-10-30T23:55:40.434+00:00Prayerful - I quite agree with your sentiments. It...Prayerful - I quite agree with your sentiments. It's the Mass which counts, not the surroundings. But I find it sad that after centuries of devout men and women labouring to create beauty to the glory of God, someone deliberately created this monstrosity (and many more). Jonathan Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03955408376728340845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-87465367943808034062017-10-30T22:18:25.543+00:002017-10-30T22:18:25.543+00:00I get a lot of emails but yes it works. I get a lot of emails but yes it works. Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-198853253863360932017-10-30T22:14:55.041+00:002017-10-30T22:14:55.041+00:00Instead go to Mass in a hired room in a hotel or c...Instead go to Mass in a hired room in a hotel or community centre, or a converted Methodist chapel or something. What were they built for, Sede?Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-72180251488638293032017-10-30T06:58:22.546+00:002017-10-30T06:58:22.546+00:00That is not a Catholic Church. It was designed and...That is not a Catholic Church. It was designed and built for the Novus Ordo sect. Catholics should avoid it and the false religion it represents.sedelondonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13282326776240751174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-65170937829278921462017-10-29T23:27:38.596+00:002017-10-29T23:27:38.596+00:00It might be unprepossessing to many eyes, but the ...It might be unprepossessing to many eyes, but the Mass of Ages has to be offered every sort of Catholic churches. A Pugin Gothic Revival church with a fine high altar, either unchanged, or only lightly changed after Council and Concilium, and marble, gilded reredo, makes for fine images, but the Mass of our fathers in a sparse bare brick church of the late 50s, 60s, 70s and onwards, is something rarer that has to be applauded.Prayerfulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01561992635589480308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-16958822303940706072017-10-29T17:30:54.316+00:002017-10-29T17:30:54.316+00:00THAT is a church???
Oh dear.THAT is a church???<br />Oh dear.Jonathan Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03955408376728340845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-20696032611798523602017-10-29T02:50:07.268+00:002017-10-29T02:50:07.268+00:00Dear Dr. Shaw,
I have tried to send you an email ...Dear Dr. Shaw,<br /><br />I have tried to send you an email through your @philosophy.ox.ac.uk address that I found online. I hope that email ID is still active?<br /><br />Yours in Christ,<br />NSPNSPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10245207203322189068noreply@blogger.com