tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post5368771326986883101..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: The Crisis and CatechesisLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-80850352886670714412013-05-29T16:52:32.658+01:002013-05-29T16:52:32.658+01:00Oh. Didn't know that. And what about other den...Oh. Didn't know that. And what about other denominations? Oleg-Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794877449768663903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-12796530159054080012013-05-29T10:27:24.322+01:002013-05-29T10:27:24.322+01:00A comparison with the Anglicans wouldn't be ve...A comparison with the Anglicans wouldn't be very informative because they undertook many of the same kinds of changes at very much the same time. And indeed they went further in many ways. They had already allowed contraception in 1930. Official liturgical reform began in earnest from 1973 ('Series 3'). High Anglicans who used Catholic books mostly switched to the new Catholic books when they came out.<br /><br />In short: they did the same things and got the same results.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-23591668390225867622013-05-28T20:37:10.809+01:002013-05-28T20:37:10.809+01:00Dear Joseph, I've republished your infographic...Dear Joseph, I've republished your infographics and some of your commentary at a Russian Catholic forum, and people keep asking for the same kind of data about the Anglican Communion in E&W. Maybe, they argue, all this disaster was common for all denominations and caused by the general offensive of secularism, and not by VII and its (false) implementation: if the Anglicans, who didn't have VII, would show the same decline during the same years as Catholics, that would seemingly prove such an idea. Can you provide some insight into that? - O.-M. Oleg-Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794877449768663903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-40395638294002611892013-05-26T21:16:46.467+01:002013-05-26T21:16:46.467+01:00Matthew - thanks for the link to catechism class. ...Matthew - thanks for the link to catechism class. com. What a fantastic website. I just checked out the sample lesson. Definitely things I would use in my class. I am from the UK and I think our schools would benefit from using a programme like this. Melanie https://www.blogger.com/profile/15296047945043263192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-63986947545101308112013-05-26T20:20:22.619+01:002013-05-26T20:20:22.619+01:00Thanks, joseph. I have myself been on the Mary val...Thanks, joseph. I have myself been on the Mary vale course. Sadly, many other teachers have not. Some have completed their CCRS course at Newman college, which is sadly lacking. One student I spoke to who had completed that course had never even heard of the Catechism. Melanie https://www.blogger.com/profile/15296047945043263192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-66944113671084386972013-05-26T20:15:12.274+01:002013-05-26T20:15:12.274+01:00I believe that Dietricht von Hildebrand gave the b...I believe that Dietricht von Hildebrand gave the best assessment of the crisis in the Church in his book Trojan Horse in the City of God, in which, he traced the crisis to the impenetration of secular values into the life of the Church. In chapter five he identified specific secular attitudes that, in his opinion, supplanted attitudes informed by the supernatural life, particularly: the confounding of holy obedience with oorporate loyalty, holy service with professional duty (including the celebration of Mass)and holy instruction with academic study. I think we can identify these traits in our opponents if we pay close attention to their arguments (I have in mind those that profess themselves orthodox but refuse to question the direction to the Church has taken in the last fifty years).<br />Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07537123281964278798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-55847255868023148012013-05-26T16:40:10.535+01:002013-05-26T16:40:10.535+01:00Try burning all copies of the CCC and the YouCat. ...Try burning all copies of the CCC and the YouCat. They lead so many souls into error. The Catechism of St Pius X is an excellent one for every one to use in common. The Roman Catechism ought to be given the highest honors, of course.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12884135823230053460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-29926684349263297582013-05-26T16:11:47.175+01:002013-05-26T16:11:47.175+01:00I agree. That's why I am a strong proponent a...I agree. That's why I am a strong proponent and advocate for programs like CatechismClass.com which are uncompromisingly traditional in their content of making children pray in Latin, teaching the Traditional Liturgy, studying the pre-Vatican II encyclicals, etc. Even the organization's teachers, web programmers, and everyone takes the Oath against modernism.<br /><br />Strong catechesis is essential.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929374709032473716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-83583615664518029532013-05-26T10:50:43.347+01:002013-05-26T10:50:43.347+01:00One pretty good answer for teachers is the Maryval...One pretty good answer for teachers is the Maryvale course for carechists. Check it out. Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-8626006368544518632013-05-26T10:17:17.012+01:002013-05-26T10:17:17.012+01:00I totally agree that proper catechesis is desperat...I totally agree that proper catechesis is desperately needed for young people. I am a school teacher and I feel that we are failing our young people in the formation given in our schools. The problem is that many young teachers are not themselves properly formed in the Faith, therefore they cannot give good witness both in the lessons they try to teach and through the example they give. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe more parish catechesis? Melanie https://www.blogger.com/profile/15296047945043263192noreply@blogger.com