tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post559255007816389911..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: A new liturgy war? Magnum principiumLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-74545966530790742012017-09-14T16:04:56.053+01:002017-09-14T16:04:56.053+01:00Which is why it isnt Cathoic anymore and no faithf...Which is why it isnt Cathoic anymore and no faithful should assist and any NOvus Ordo worship service. Man is the focus of this unpleasing ritual.Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-44191405642210900292017-09-13T17:28:02.164+01:002017-09-13T17:28:02.164+01:00You are suppose to be faithful to the Faith reveal...You are suppose to be faithful to the Faith revealed to the Apostles by Our Savior and not faithful to Rome or to a man in a white cassock. Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-83920286983872129252017-09-12T14:32:09.050+01:002017-09-12T14:32:09.050+01:00Well, good question. You must remember: this is a...Well, good question. You must remember: this is all based on the actual beliefs of Liberals, Modernists, Charismatics, etc. They have been infected with a more "Protestant" belief system over the past 50 or 60 years. Therefore, for them, Latin, Traditional Prayers, etc., are out.....for them, it's no longer about Mass as a Sacrifice to atone for sin, etc.; Mass is just a nice get-together where we visit and "remember" Christ, etc. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04371441661077351371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-16743136757692643522017-09-11T20:02:35.350+01:002017-09-11T20:02:35.350+01:00"US Catholic is as bad as the Fishwrap, Crux,..."US Catholic is as bad as the Fishwrap, Crux, Aletaia, Patheos, et al."<br /><br />They're a hair to the "right" (if that word can be used) of the Reporter (so hard to outflank them), but certainly more progressive than Crux, Patheos, Aletaia, or perhaps even the Bitter Pill. Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09667659475957090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-7329854619272973302017-09-11T18:05:43.130+01:002017-09-11T18:05:43.130+01:00US Catholic is as bad as the Fishwrap, Crux, Aleta...US Catholic is as bad as the Fishwrap, Crux, Aletaia, Patheos, et al.Lasserre deVillierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658492637019888155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-52206085912926231432017-09-11T15:23:49.416+01:002017-09-11T15:23:49.416+01:00After attending translated masses my whole life an...After attending translated masses my whole life and every other day,even serving as an altar server I thought I knew it all. I also started to become bored and distracted. That's of course until I attended a Traditional Latin Mass for the first time last year. I've come to the conclusion as to why liberals and modernists, (Charismatics) would want to end such a beautiful thing in the church? What could be better for the world?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586525931583902342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-32907942527787733362017-09-11T15:12:20.365+01:002017-09-11T15:12:20.365+01:00"Disturbingly heretical" -- disturbing a..."Disturbingly heretical" -- disturbing accusation.Konstantinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13701303189143549671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-54492595993102074682017-09-11T13:26:28.092+01:002017-09-11T13:26:28.092+01:00"Out of the noise and smoke of the renewed li..."Out of the noise and smoke of the renewed liturgical battle, as out of the heart-breaking liturgical abuses of the past, readers are heartily welcomed to the Traditional Mass"<br /><br />Exactly my sentiments as well;---and the TLM just continues to safely and sanely march on unsullied.Zoupahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17524235954938620930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-80093647080091588412017-09-11T08:48:17.999+01:002017-09-11T08:48:17.999+01:00Even if you don't attend the OF, the debate ma...Even if you don't attend the OF, the debate matters because it is about the validity of the tradition.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-39198209846054619252017-09-11T01:00:42.022+01:002017-09-11T01:00:42.022+01:00Unfortunately, that only works if you take the sed...Unfortunately, that only works if you take the sedevacantist position. If we are to be faithful to Rome, how can we reject the pope and the liturgy it provides where we are?kmdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841726438331098693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-60054478573092910452017-09-10T20:47:29.393+01:002017-09-10T20:47:29.393+01:00No faithful Catholic should care one iota about th...No faithful Catholic should care one iota about this because no faithful Catholic should be attending a NO worship service. Your obligation is to attend the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass not a community meal. Let the dead bury the dead. Find a TLM.Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-69068435009719328462017-09-10T19:34:12.557+01:002017-09-10T19:34:12.557+01:00What the liberals are saying in these cases is rea...<i>What the liberals are saying in these cases is really that the Latin is wrong.</i><br /><br />That really *is* a fair characterization of quite a few liberals in the Church, I'm afraid.<br /><br />To pluck one blatant example that always comes to mind, Bryan Cones at US Catholic was shocked to actually look at the prayers in the original Latin after the new translation was finally introduced in 2011. After looking at the new Prayer over the people, Tuesday of the 5th week of Lent and the new Prayer over the gifts, Cones exclaimed:<br /><br />“There’s a lot going on in that prayer, and I’m not sure much of it is good. Like most of the prayers, it focuses more on sin than anything else, and there’s little recognition that we are already baptized, already redeemed.<br /><br />“…They are also disturbingly heretical: lots of “meriting” and “earning” in them (Pelagianism), lots of spirit/body dualism. What these naked translations really reveal is how imperial and pagan these prayers really are—you could substitute “Zeus” for “Lord” in any of them. In fact, they use “Lord” so often that it is hard to tell if we are praying to Jesus or the Father. (All Roman liturgical prayers, with rare exception, are addressed to the Father.) <b>To me it seems not only that we shouldn’t be using these translations, we shouldn’t be using most of these prayers at all anymore.</b> They simply reflect an approach to God–a distant, imperial God to whom we must beg for mercy–and an understanding of the church–sinful, unworthy, unredeemed–that I think we have left behind.”<br /><br />Link: http://www.uscatholic.org/blog/2011/04/what-kind-god-do-new-mass-texts-imagine<br /><br />Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.com