tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post7503693802277988345..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: 'Look not upon me': thoughts on the abuse crisisLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-22043125492225482372018-08-28T08:35:23.477+01:002018-08-28T08:35:23.477+01:00Frank, dear sir, may I prevail upon you for your k...Frank, dear sir, may I prevail upon you for your kind assistance? Would you have a moment to let me know if it is possible to subscribe to LMS Chairman, and how to do so? I would be most grateful. Thank you.Catholic galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18263915832123137047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-42075610008769009592018-08-28T08:26:40.623+01:002018-08-28T08:26:40.623+01:00Susanna, I am very grateful for your sobering insi...Susanna, I am very grateful for your sobering insights. May they come to mind when I need them.Catholic galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18263915832123137047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-78154258769973072502018-08-27T16:59:00.283+01:002018-08-27T16:59:00.283+01:00Very well said and, I believe, true.Very well said and, I believe, true.Aeurellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13052900909219428358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-62842459668049306072018-08-27T08:08:16.900+01:002018-08-27T08:08:16.900+01:00I agree that human behavior and nature remain a my...I agree that human behavior and nature remain a mystery, but much has been learned in the clinical sense. In my experience working professionally in lay ministry, I’ve known for decades of the deceitful and:or vile lifestyles of some priests and the bishops who protect them. I believe many bishops bury this for fear of their own exposure by priests who know them. If this devastation is going to be stopped, IMO, it’s critical to try to understand the minds of these people and the demonic forces they serve, knowingly or buried in denial. I believe you that they hate the Faith, although their warped version of reality might not see it. They can believe their own lies and justify anything. One point I believe is important. Many disordered clergy, including bishops as well as deacons and religious may not care about the Faith other than how it can be twisted to serve them. However, they most definitely despise the faithful, often the most superficially charming and beloved. They hold the faithful in total contempt because so many are lethal narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths, clever enough to fool even professionals who don’t hear the hateful way they malign believers behind their backs and genuinely consider them ‘the enemy’ too stupid to concern themselves with, unless threatened to the point they have to destroy them. So much media is making this primarily about sexual preferences or deviants as if they are normal in other ways. In my experience they are not. To some degree, in my experience, they are viscous predators in every sense, not only destructive but dangerous.Susannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12574245637412434454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-69129603231788735072018-08-19T16:37:40.259+01:002018-08-19T16:37:40.259+01:00I disagree, there are too many Catholics who have ...I disagree, there are too many Catholics who have no understanding of the gay lifestyle. There are no doddering old geezer bishops who don't know how the world works. Homosexuals joined the priesthood in the 50's (maybe earlier, I'm going from memory) because no one ostracizes priests for not marrying. So, at least by then, there was a whole gay culture in the Catholic priesthood, these gays rose in the ranks to bishop, cardinal and even to the Vatican. No one is a sheltered old guy who doesn't get it, they all participated. They never intended to be celibate, they had access to an old boys network so they knew which priests to approach and which seminaries to eniter where they had the gay dream of multiple partners, initiating young virgins, sex games, s&m, voyeurism, it was gay Disneyland. Then, in the 70's Alinsky radicals infiltrated the priesthood through the gay network so they now had sodimy with a political agenda. Their goal was to reach the highest offices in every country and turn the church socialist. They have succeeded because the church has been busy with wars, falling membership, heresy, VII, turmoil, and rebellion. But, Christ is shining a light on it at last. Just as socialism entered the church through the gay network, it can be rooted out by purging gays. The Vatican needs to grow a spine and cast out every known priest with SSA from seminary to deacon to pope. No regret, no conditions. Prayer is powerful, Mary is powerful, saints are powerful. Let's get on our knees and go to war.JeanieDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07924567509654666947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-17707708755316888272018-08-19T16:22:39.533+01:002018-08-19T16:22:39.533+01:00Maybe I'm naive, but I believe Jesus is in com...Maybe I'm naive, but I believe Jesus is in complete and total control and he's shining disinfecting rays of light on a dark mess from generations of rebellion. I agree it's a homosexual issue and homosexuals must be excised from every level of leadership from seminary to deacon to pope. I'm not convinced Francis is gay, but the mess reaches to the highes levels of the Vatican and MUST be purged. Prayer is powerful, Mary is powerful, saints are powerful. Let's get on our knees and go to war. (War drums in the background) JeanieDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07924567509654666947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-34832459938344878462018-08-16T21:06:37.591+01:002018-08-16T21:06:37.591+01:00Kathleen, you said: "That homosexuals are in ...Kathleen, you said: "That homosexuals are in complete and total charge of our church, and not only are they sodomizing boys and young men, and continue, they are intent on their goal, to tear apart the Catholic Church and faith and render it impotent."<br /><br />I agree! It surely looks that way since Bergoglio became their leader.steve brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761648880024148327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-12844329747973096062018-08-16T18:53:54.002+01:002018-08-16T18:53:54.002+01:00Amen, Kathleen and Gaius and Mr. Shaw. Amen, Kathleen and Gaius and Mr. Shaw. Frank (@txtradcatholic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11006950394292596061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-52450458328194741752018-08-16T17:25:50.994+01:002018-08-16T17:25:50.994+01:00The power structure of the Catholic Church is wron...<i>The power structure of the Catholic Church is wrong. Old celibate men with little experience of real life wield power over the faithful demanding blind trust.</i><br /><br />Not sure why celibacy is apparently a bad thing. (Nor age, nor manliness, but I'll focus on celibacy for now.) Presumably the idea owes something to the pseudo-Freudian notion floating around nowadays that everybody needs to get lots of sex to be psychologically healthy, and that, if you try and "repress" your sex drive by not having sex, you'll end up turning into a pervert who rapes teenage boys, or something. Of course, when you put it this way, it's apparent how nonsensical the idea is: whilst situational homosexuality is a genuine phenomenon, it's one that occurs in environments where men get no interaction with women (prisons, ships on long voyages, etc.). There is, as far as I'm aware, no reason to think that a man who interacts with women but can't have sex with them (like most priests) will end up becoming attracted to men or children as a result.<br /><br />It's also worth noting that, from what I can tell, Evangelical pastors have rates of sexual abuse allegations no lower than those of Catholic priests, and they're allowed to get married and have sex. Ditto Orthodox priests. So blaming celibacy for the current crisis is likely inaccurate.<br /><br />Another thing I've noticed is that nobody seems to take the "lack of sex --> paedophilia" notion seriously in other situations. E.g., nobody seems worried that non-ordained men who can't get laid (incels and the like) will end up molesting children. Such concerns seem to be only ever applied to Catholic priests.<br /><br />One final point is that, if you read the reports, it becomes clear that the priests and hierarchy weren't really practising celibacy. I don't mean that they tried and failed; I mean that, in most cases, neither priests nor bishops seem to have thought that trying was particularly important. Very few bishops seem to have disciplined their priests for breaking their vows of celibacy; more often, such things were ignored, unless the priests was actually breaking the law, in which case he might be reassigned to a different parish (but not suspended, laicised, or handed over to the civil authorities for prosecution). So essentially, you're blaming celibacy for a situation brought about by people who didn't think celibacy very important.<br />Gaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13683100808581061355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-36987801668339963532018-08-16T15:31:06.626+01:002018-08-16T15:31:06.626+01:00Not sure how married priests will fix the problem ...Not sure how married priests will fix the problem when the problem is an active preference for promoting and sheltering deviants among bishops and even Popes.Sean W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10085184456489549231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-68291964416104649022018-08-16T15:19:01.951+01:002018-08-16T15:19:01.951+01:00We are still avoiding terms. If nothing else resul...We are still avoiding terms. If nothing else results from the knowledge the iconic Cardinal McCarrick himself is a boy molester, has molested countless boys and young men, and has ruined entire lives, and now this grand jury finding that shows in just one diocese, hundreds of predator priests and thousands of victims, can we at least call this what is clearly is and stop dancing. For the sake of the victims, this is a homosexual predator problem, and is as old as time. <br />The John Jay study found that 81% of the victims over the decades were post-adolescent males, around age 11 to 17. This is NOT pedophilia, but homosexual activity. These boys are known as "twinks", and are mighty appealing to homosexual men. <br />The exact breakdown on PA has not been tallied for the public yet, they are seeming to try to work in dated stories from girls, that happened decades ago. People want to avoid the obvious, but we cannot avoid it any longer. Will we let fear of backlash prevent us from stating the obvious reality? That homosexuals are in complete and total charge of our church, and not only are they sodomizing boys and young men, and continue, they are intent on their goal, to tear apart the Catholic Church and faith and render it impotent.<br />Please see Joseph Sciambra's website and look at the online header for the Quest Conference that just happened in your nation. James Martin and some other priests were there as speakers. Look at the header at the top of the page. A boy's hand flirtatiously "walks" toward a man's hand on the other side of the page. The man's fingers "walk" toward the boy. The hands walking toward each other so coyly, are walking across a "bridge", (Mr. Martin's?), made of...what else...a child's BLOCKS. If you are shocked you join me, because even I am shocked at their boldness. They proclaim their goal right under our eyes. <br />These men are evil, and we must call them out for their evil without delay. <br />God help boys and young men, protect them from these predators, and help Catholics to resolve never to ignore their plight again.Kathleen1031https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201084623185206141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-15133207337387742018-08-16T12:42:09.753+01:002018-08-16T12:42:09.753+01:00There is nothing in what was instituted by Christ ...There is nothing in what was instituted by Christ which demanded 'blind obedience' to clerics. If you have that kind of clericalism, married clerics are not going to help. Why should they? The idea is ridiculous.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-88367347487649907362018-08-16T12:13:21.472+01:002018-08-16T12:13:21.472+01:00The power structure (Pope, bishops, priests...) wa...The power structure (Pope, bishops, priests...) was instituted by Christ himself and is as old as the Church. We can't do away with it. However, we can, and must, as lay people, force the hierarchy to face the facts and publicly admit them and do penance; also, to remove from their office those who are proven to be unworthy of it, wherever and whoever they are. We must do this while remaining absolutely faithful to the Faith in its fullness. In practice, the forthcoming World Meeting for Families might yield some interesting information: what will the present Pope do and say? What will Fr James Marin? Cardinal Casey has already said he's not coming: will Cardinal Wuerl have resigned by then? Above all, what will the laity, attending this conference, do? I hope it is finally perceived by the hierarchy that people have had enogh and demand appropriate change. At any rate, the meeting should help us perceive what the next step might be. The "other" simultaneous meeting taking place in Dublin and convened by Lumen Christi takes on an ever-greater importance. Wish I could go!<br />Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03946668359531118997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-15778638870313181322018-08-16T10:56:35.418+01:002018-08-16T10:56:35.418+01:00Amen. This whole catastrophe has convinced me that...Amen. This whole catastrophe has convinced me that we need married priests. There's plenty of biblical and Thomist support for it.K T Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10259428595745509790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-33613944740565790672018-08-16T10:43:35.288+01:002018-08-16T10:43:35.288+01:00I understand your sentiment that human beings usin...I understand your sentiment that human beings using the Church structure to abuse children does not make Catholic teaching less valid. However the humans in the Catholic Church continue to defend the indefensible, hide the truth, protect the guilty and refuse to cooperate with investigations in to their members wrongdoing. The power structure of the Catholic Church is wrong. Old celibate men with little experience of real life wield power over the faithful demanding blind trust. Not a club anyone should be a member of in my opinion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11764873374125349274noreply@blogger.com