tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post7913648873328781464..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Ordination Statistics for England and WalesLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-85576527421324525022013-04-29T22:08:22.997+01:002013-04-29T22:08:22.997+01:00You have demonstrated what we all intuitively knew...You have demonstrated what we all intuitively knew, that the priesthood started to decline sharply from the mid 60s as Catholicism-lite took over and the Western Church abandoned the wisdom of our Catholic ancestors. I suspect the trends for Mass attendance have fallen more sharply than for the priesthood. <br /><br />All trends tend to level out, the “smaller Church” that Benedict XVI has spoken of, and we will have to start again just as we have several times before in the last two millennia.<br /><br />What is important now is that we have good bishops and priests, not necessarily more, and also that the Novus Ordo form of the Latin Rite, surely the predominant one for decades to come, is re-formed to once again express the infallible teaching of the Church.<br /><br />So pray for vocations, yes, but the right sort! <br />Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-59403066335528727592013-04-29T13:55:44.223+01:002013-04-29T13:55:44.223+01:00PS kavi is supertradson...smilePS kavi is supertradson...smileSupertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-15183622415502662982013-04-29T09:46:50.450+01:002013-04-29T09:46:50.450+01:00PS - thanks for the spreadsheet, I've been col...PS - thanks for the spreadsheet, I've been collecting various bits of data on the 20th Century Church and this has saved me a lot of work.kavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08435296414766344748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-45853079152582011802013-04-29T09:35:35.788+01:002013-04-29T09:35:35.788+01:00thank you, Maths! I knew something was wrong here....thank you, Maths! I knew something was wrong here...<br /><br />-random seminariankavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08435296414766344748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-55255991316673657852013-04-28T00:08:19.798+01:002013-04-28T00:08:19.798+01:00Another feature to consider is that the ratio of p...Another feature to consider is that the ratio of priest to laity has rarely changed in the last 100 years.<br /><br />The key problem is the war as has been correctly stated. Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-6057425953864137702013-04-27T20:11:12.040+01:002013-04-27T20:11:12.040+01:00Excellent piece of work from Rev Morgan and team, ...Excellent piece of work from Rev Morgan and team, and well done for getting the data together in Excel for us to play with. I would have expected closer correlation between secular and regular in the days when the orders ran so many of our parishes.<br /><br />WWII has an analogous effect to WWI, it seems. How many ordinands in the 20s and 30s were second generation British? The surname isn't quite the give-away it might be: an Irishman ordained at Maynooth for the Salford Diocese (for the Missions!) is a different sociological case that the son of an Irishman who came to England in the 1880s. I wonder if anybody has ever studied this.<br /><br />This is very stimulating: but the people at the top of CV should have realised that the figures they had been given were bunk, in the same way as we did. If they didn't realise instinctively that something was wrong, they don't know the Church in E&W well enough to speak for it. <br /><br />Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-81178730383489547802013-04-27T15:10:02.265+01:002013-04-27T15:10:02.265+01:00The peak before the War is interesting, but I woul...The peak before the War is interesting, but I wouldn't say it was downhill from there. The War must have depressed seminary life as well as entry into seminary, but things were picking up strongly in the 1950s. The downtrend took hold after 1964.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-73016323407299702562013-04-27T14:32:55.168+01:002013-04-27T14:32:55.168+01:00Interesting to see that 1936 in when things really...Interesting to see that 1936 in when things really changed, it was all down hill from therePJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16518402555593461596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-55924799291312721692013-04-27T14:20:25.015+01:002013-04-27T14:20:25.015+01:00The Nottingham Diocese will also be at breaking po...The Nottingham Diocese will also be at breaking point in ten years time and even now it represents a similar situation to that noted by supertradmum.<br /><br />The Catholic Voices statements must be removed/corrected because they are erroneous.ORA PRO NOBIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546605493757534530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-14949731069575243592013-04-27T14:01:12.440+01:002013-04-27T14:01:12.440+01:00I do hope he changes his statements as these are m...I do hope he changes his statements as these are misleading. Anyone who has lived as long as I have can see the difference. In my home diocese, there will be 15 active priests for 100,000 Catholics in two years. The retirement age is now until a priest cannot work anymore. Many priests are in their 80s and working.Supertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.com