tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post8717420148437958085..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: An open letter to Mgr Basil LoftusLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-61525336402523752412013-06-17T23:50:14.709+01:002013-06-17T23:50:14.709+01:00Congratulations for the excellent and very measure...Congratulations for the excellent and very measured answer. <br /><br />I allow myself to doubt Monsignor Loftus is losing the will to live. <br /><br />Mundabor<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-65950380213011372902013-06-14T17:03:22.988+01:002013-06-14T17:03:22.988+01:00Me too, that and the way they chopped up the lette...Me too, that and the way they chopped up the letters. If they were traditional that is.Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15346801564305334415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-12252111368178817182013-06-14T17:02:11.976+01:002013-06-14T17:02:11.976+01:00Yes, but he is correct.Yes, but he is correct.Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15346801564305334415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-18600503405469404492013-06-14T17:01:21.260+01:002013-06-14T17:01:21.260+01:00Oh well done Dr Shaw. This gentleman not only is a...Oh well done Dr Shaw. This gentleman not only is allowed to sound-off in the Catholic times, but also up here in the Scottish Catholic Observer."Catholic" seems to have a very wide application in these papers.Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15346801564305334415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-39610131323943306152013-06-13T23:07:07.798+01:002013-06-13T23:07:07.798+01:00Having reached the end of all these comments - wel...Having reached the end of all these comments - well I haven't laughed so much in ages. <br />Absolutely agree with Dr. Shaw.<br />Fr. Francis was an antidote to the Mgr but, like a few other commenter I too stopped buying the C.Times. <br />It was after the Terrence Higgins leaflet was placed in them one week. Were they MAD? <br />No money from me after that.<br /><br />Bless you all.momangelicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982875216331629413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-25431758051466167072013-06-13T17:15:21.069+01:002013-06-13T17:15:21.069+01:00Vulgar abuse of that nature is NOT appropriate in ...Vulgar abuse of that nature is NOT appropriate in this Blog or indeed any other. Disagreement. Debate even Anger yes but not mere vulgar personal abuse Neil Addisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489922704972084561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-25521296919753784622013-06-13T16:30:28.075+01:002013-06-13T16:30:28.075+01:00This Loftus sounds like a right tosser. This Loftus sounds like a right tosser. UnamSanctamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02298964285233857388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-50501682589056609772013-06-13T16:12:38.289+01:002013-06-13T16:12:38.289+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.The Catristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342223551222600681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-50176948096510362622013-06-13T00:00:54.353+01:002013-06-13T00:00:54.353+01:00Your reply is an excellent, well deserved response...Your reply is an excellent, well deserved response to the drivel which Mgr. Basil Loftus has poured out over many years. I happen to be one who attended the same school as Basil when we were boys. He has never changed, more's the pity!<br />JARayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138004129894177863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-32503931173377914642013-06-12T09:55:39.503+01:002013-06-12T09:55:39.503+01:00Excellent! Excellent! Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653640127655491512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-85006930714143317292013-06-11T21:31:13.457+01:002013-06-11T21:31:13.457+01:00If a person is prepared to give criticism then he ...If a person is prepared to give criticism then he should be able to take it,,,,, Touche Monsignor<br /><br />Fr S GardnerRabies Theologorumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07030624468149641157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-64909329734740845472013-06-11T19:58:45.799+01:002013-06-11T19:58:45.799+01:00Ha ha, very clever/Ha ha, very clever/Savonarolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547523172291007631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-2041769269885029692013-06-11T16:51:26.274+01:002013-06-11T16:51:26.274+01:00Basil Loftus is the reason why I stopped buying th...Basil Loftus is the reason why I stopped buying the "Scottish Catholic Observer".Crux Fidelishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949811845963570447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-69883046198637014622013-06-11T16:34:23.701+01:002013-06-11T16:34:23.701+01:00Monsignor Loftus is the reason why I don't buy...Monsignor Loftus is the reason why I don't buy the Catholic Times.RJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871618901190898384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-70237749603331354432013-06-11T13:40:09.598+01:002013-06-11T13:40:09.598+01:00Kevin,
You are cruel to fish and chips!
Kevin,<br /> You are cruel to fish and chips!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-84052988794501761892013-06-11T09:18:54.275+01:002013-06-11T09:18:54.275+01:00I wonder what the Monsignor thinks "jejune&qu...I wonder what the Monsignor thinks "jejune" means.vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-55587389974557414242013-06-11T07:46:30.815+01:002013-06-11T07:46:30.815+01:00May I draw your attention to the displacement of t...May I draw your attention to the displacement of the hamster animation on Fr. Z's blog, explained thus:<br /><br />Basil…<br />As of 28 February 2013, Basil has left his position of running the rat-race on the side bar. He now has retired to his own page. Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-10329187724351903472013-06-11T00:38:57.671+01:002013-06-11T00:38:57.671+01:00Mgr Loftus no doubt should have his say. But as D...Mgr Loftus no doubt should have his say. But as Dr Shaw pointed out the arguments really have moved on. <br /><br /> We are now in a position to look back from a reasonable perspective in time at Vatican II. My personal view, speaking as a middle of the road Catholic who has observed developments over the decades, is that it was the wrong council called, against advice and above all, at the wrong time. There had been a build up of liberal/Modernist heresy within the Church prior to the council and, set as it was in the secularist excesses of the sixties, it gave the heretics their encouragement and opportunity. The naivety of the Vatican and the bishops in the face of this beggars belief.<br /><br /> It is now accepted beyond doubt that the documents were manipulated by these people, but more importantly, in a sense, they abused the liturgy of the Pauline Mass which already went beyond the intent of Sacrosanctum Concilium, to bring about not only a banal but also a doctrinally misleading liturgy.<br /><br />The result has been the biggest disaster the Church has suffered since the Protestant Reformation. Many, many, many Catholics have simply walked away.<br /><br />Pope Benedict showed us the way forward both doctrinally and liturgically, that is, in Continuity with two thousand years of Catholicism. Pope Francis is orthodox Catholic, so I have no fears there. But just as after the last Reformation it will take many Popes before the mess is sorted out.<br /><br />Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-37353848976711721272013-06-10T22:22:41.669+01:002013-06-10T22:22:41.669+01:00Loftus's words are good for one thing ... wrap...Loftus's words are good for one thing ... wrapping up fish and chips. He ought to review his journalistic position if not his ministry!Mold Junctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720139361285979498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-41213263449052981092013-06-10T22:18:20.595+01:002013-06-10T22:18:20.595+01:00"Heretical drivel" is about the level of..."Heretical drivel" is about the level of invective to be expected from traditionalist Catholics. Clearly not many contributors to this blog will agree with this, but I think you should know that there are probably many many Catholics who have for a long time been dismayed by the way in which the great and inspiring vision of Vatican II for the renewal of the Church has been betrayed and undermined by members of the hierarchy (who is really being disloyal to the authority of the Church?) and are very grateful that there are people like Basil Loftus who still uphold that vision and are given a platform by the Catholic Times. There are plenty of other writers in that paper on the traditionalist wing, you could at least allow this one column. If he occasionally expresses himself somewhat bluntly in a satirical way, maybe one does not need to respond over pompously. Those who are devoted to the Latin Mass and want to restore pre-Vatican II Catholicism are perfectly entitled to their views. I would not want to censor them, but I think they speak for only a minority of the people of the Church, a very vocal one admittedly. They have been in the ascendancy lately, but there are signs with the new Pope that their days may well be numbered and that aggiornamento is back on the agenda. For the wellbeing and future health of the Church I believe this can only be a good thing.Savonarolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12547523172291007631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-35209582611860145852013-06-10T22:08:44.400+01:002013-06-10T22:08:44.400+01:00A very eloquent response. Thank you for taking the...A very eloquent response. Thank you for taking the time to compose such a fine letter.Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17553341002553188224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-42027015322332124582013-06-10T19:50:12.190+01:002013-06-10T19:50:12.190+01:00An excellent reply to Mgr Loftus, who really shoul...An excellent reply to Mgr Loftus, who really should leave the Catholic Church if he cannot accept its authority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-1118131813496240422013-06-10T18:58:49.284+01:002013-06-10T18:58:49.284+01:00A fine letter.A fine letter.fr. Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867987745174360221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-75720661952671509192013-06-10T18:53:36.223+01:002013-06-10T18:53:36.223+01:00"...their view is impeded by a crucifix and s..."...their view is impeded by a crucifix and six candlesticks.'<br /><br />That was written by Msgr Loftus? Words fail me.Aged parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05217229048176272954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-1138331605389837652013-06-10T18:35:14.622+01:002013-06-10T18:35:14.622+01:00Dr Shaw, please do accept my most humble and abjec...Dr Shaw, please do accept my most humble and abject apologies. I should have guessed that such heretical drivel would not have been spawned from your own good keyboard! To think that I thought you an ignorant goat!<br /><br />God bless you in your work.Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.com