tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post8857952238796006577..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: The Church and the secular man-crisisLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-88849882881095502722016-07-25T00:37:18.128+01:002016-07-25T00:37:18.128+01:00A marvellous post.
I left seminary a few years ag...A marvellous post.<br /><br />I left seminary a few years ago after quite a raucous time. Having laid aside a promising management career, I felt very betrayed by the likes of Cardinal O'Brien's and Pope Benedict's resignation, quoting Dante on Celestine V on hearing the news. This was also reflected in seminary. Men were treated with contempt and danger. The experience of being screened and then subject to regular "human direction" (this applied to all of us) was invasive and offensive. It was a relief to leave all that navel-gazing behind.<br /><br />Perhaps the most disappointing thing was that the once place that was meant to be a refuge from all the demoralising things in the world, the Church, had simply gone along with its tune. In the end, I too gave up on that natural masculine drive in favour of an easy life in which I could pursue my own interests in peace. I wish it were otherwise, but I do not wish to be a martyr to ancient, unrewarded virtues.<br /><br />Ad multos annos!Old Catholic Church UKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07369993760223244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-90612047339776638592015-03-16T10:10:02.725+00:002015-03-16T10:10:02.725+00:00You'll find the content of the prayers differe...You'll find the content of the prayers different as well. The elimination of 'negative' theological elements in the Reform, like sin, penance, and grace, the rejection of worldly things and the intercession of the Saints, gives the two Forms a quite different feel.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-79624066433892456032015-03-16T10:00:15.967+00:002015-03-16T10:00:15.967+00:00Apologies for being slightly off-topic, but I had ...Apologies for being slightly off-topic, but I had a point about men and the liturgy that I didn't have a chance to make when the more relevant posts were still current.<br /><br />People who are not churchgoers find that Christianity has a high cringe factor. All the talk of love, joy, peace, forgiveness and fluffy bunnies that comes up in a Christian setting is downright embarrassing to most non-churchgoers, and is one of the things that stops people considering Christianity as a serious option.<br /><br />Converts (and I'm a recent male convert myself) can find that cringe factor to be a real obstacle, and if the cringe-inducing material is emphasised too strongly it can be thoroughly off-putting.<br /><br />What I've found from going to the TLM Is that having Mass in Latin eliminates that problem, at least as far as the liturgy goes. I still know from my missal what the priest is saying, but putting the prayers behind a semi-permeable language barrier neutralises their potential to be embarrassing, and allows me to focus on their content undistracted by my instinctive yuck-reaction.<br /><br />The fact that Latin is such an elegant, concise, serious-sounding language does of course help enormously.Edwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767408097891025052noreply@blogger.com