tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post8953276642574599213..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Feminisation of the liturgy: letter in the UniverseLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-2746888639774522562016-08-09T10:56:00.225+01:002016-08-09T10:56:00.225+01:00See this post:
http://www.lmschairman.org/2015/01/...See this post:<br />http://www.lmschairman.org/2015/01/patrick-arnold-on-masculine-liturgy.htmlJoseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-26357442462591115122016-08-09T10:47:46.040+01:002016-08-09T10:47:46.040+01:00'A general lack of mystery and reverence'....'A general lack of mystery and reverence'...surely this has nothing to do with 'feminisation'..but everything to do with use of the vernacular and the misunderstanding of what the mass actually is...also the lack of contemplative prayer within the lives of the congregationAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510804632640247600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-53072510156273908412016-08-09T10:40:29.216+01:002016-08-09T10:40:29.216+01:00Let us also not forget the moral standing of the C...Let us also not forget the moral standing of the Catholic church now lies in tatters following the abuse scandal. The catholic church now comes under the category of 'dodgy'. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510804632640247600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-1422591220056890262016-08-08T12:20:56.390+01:002016-08-08T12:20:56.390+01:00A point I have variously made before: in the Novus...A point I have variously made before: in the Novus Ordo there is very little for servers to do, though functions frequently are invented to suit the number of servers and/or "serviettes" available. In the usus antiquior there is prescribed ritual for the server also. Getting this sort of thing right appeals to boys and is a source of satisfaction and feeling of achievement and self worth.vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-21418160545648976232016-08-07T21:49:12.834+01:002016-08-07T21:49:12.834+01:00Dear Nicholas. Isn't your response simply conf...Dear Nicholas. Isn't your response simply confirming what I have said? Looking logically, there are fewer priests because there have been fewer male altar servers & more priests concelebrate or do without servers because the OF liturgy not only allows but also expects concelebration.David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-54834556376953767092016-08-07T12:52:11.633+01:002016-08-07T12:52:11.633+01:00But as often as not, at least in my experience in ...But as often as not, at least in my experience in the UK, there are no servers at Mass. Further in the old days when each priest said Mass alone there were many more opportunities for boys to serve Mass which I for one certainly appreciated. To-day with less priests we have concelebration which doubly reduces the opportunities.Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-34471629641203888572016-08-07T10:54:00.047+01:002016-08-07T10:54:00.047+01:00It seems to me that following Vatican 2 the Church...It seems to me that following Vatican 2 the Church itself encouraged feminism, not only by the introduction of girl servers (which tended to put off the young boys with a probable future drop in vocations to the priesthood) but by allowing female readers. The question of the use of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion is a separate question. It has been postulated that the introduction of girl servers was intended to increase vocations to the religious life but this can be seen as a spectacular failure when looking a female religious orders (other than the traditionalist ones). <br />Over many centuries it was accepted that service at the altar & nearness to the mystery of Transubstantiation was a great means of attracting boys to the priesthood & yet boys have been dissuaded from serving as (largely) they see the introduction of girls as a feminising influence.<br />The Church itself (through some bishops) seems also to be dissuading young men from entering the seminaries by insisting that even men in their early 20s are "too young & immature" to begin priestly formation.<br />We need to get back to a time when the priesthood was looked upon as one of the most important graces granted to men by becoming a Alter Christi & this will not be done by feminisation of the Church.David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.com