tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post8971819643889528789..comments2024-03-26T12:56:54.350+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: Another tendentious translation: Veterum SapientiaLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-52461401028116134432012-06-12T09:57:32.601+01:002012-06-12T09:57:32.601+01:00None! Students will be divided into 'Beginners...None! Students will be divided into 'Beginners' and non-beginners: basically those with some Latin already. The Beginners group is usually the larger one.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-33172393542842286012012-06-11T23:22:26.772+01:002012-06-11T23:22:26.772+01:00Joseph, may I ask what prior knowledge of Latin is...Joseph, may I ask what prior knowledge of Latin is needed by those who may wish to attend the LMS course? I cannot see anything about this on the website. I realise this is perhaps an odd place to post such a request for information, but I thank you for your help!Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05705761696437705220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-19685449363293949012012-06-05T19:15:19.328+01:002012-06-05T19:15:19.328+01:00Joe has made a very important point about the way ...Joe has made a very important point about the way certain Vatican documents might be being selectively edited and translated. It is a discovery that has important ramifications for all concerned with the restoration of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass and the promotion of Latin in the liturgy. With all due respect, the merits of Esperanto have really nothing to do with it!Caroline Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06684938215164504064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-88291545044659565812012-06-05T16:02:46.356+01:002012-06-05T16:02:46.356+01:00It says: 'The importance of Latin does not boi...It says: 'The importance of Latin does not boil down to some tedious practical consideration, that it is 'equally acceptable to all', like, I suppose, Esperanto (one might think: and also equally unacceptable!) '<br /><br />I think your misunderstanding derives from imagining that 'one might add, equally unacceptable' applies only to Esperanto, not also to Latin. There is no reason, as far as I can see, in Logic or grammar why this should be so. My point is that an 'equally acceptable' language could equally be described as an 'equally unacceptable' language: it would be a language which is no more difficult for each of a number of different parties. Like a meeting place which is 'mutually convenient' - or 'mutually inconvenient'.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-85198811312363770612012-06-05T14:34:35.680+01:002012-06-05T14:34:35.680+01:00I have read and re-read your words,and, whether yo...I have read and re-read your words,and, whether you intended it, like it or not, you are saying that Esperanto is unacceptable. Please forgive me if I am guilty of misinterpretation.<br /><br />Incidentally, I don't see Esperanto and Latin as rivals. How could they be? They operate in different domains. <br /><br />I acknowledge that you raise an important point here about the importance of translations from Latin being available and not being made in a tendentious way.Bill Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810992711601197508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-60426495127003730542012-06-05T13:45:43.111+01:002012-06-05T13:45:43.111+01:00You say that Esperanto is "equally unacceptab...You say that Esperanto is "equally unacceptable" but you do not say why.<br /><br />I am glad however that the Pope does not dismiss the language.<br /><br />See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahiIBTUcC4&context=C4712375ADvjVQa1PpcFPexqXF5OxfBX3jYLo2JoSBjO2AyJ6PEis=Brian Barkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02096761999215952324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-24958112491711648542012-06-05T12:45:36.566+01:002012-06-05T12:45:36.566+01:00I didn't. Read it again.
If you are talking a...I didn't. Read it again.<br /><br />If you are talking about having the liturgy in artificial languages, that's a question I don't broach.Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-32467452574799843812012-06-05T12:23:02.272+01:002012-06-05T12:23:02.272+01:00Why on earth would you see Esperanto as unacceptab...Why on earth would you see Esperanto as unacceptable. Esperanto may not be perfect, but I've used it successfully in Africa, South America and Europe, and it does the job.Bill Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810992711601197508noreply@blogger.com