tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post9094433161079973248..comments2024-03-14T06:43:39.590+00:00Comments on LMS Chairman: The Mandatum: let's not be hard on Pope FrancisLatin Mass Societyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17951084157414901564noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-10804690479273180712017-04-10T15:01:11.916+01:002017-04-10T15:01:11.916+01:00I agree that The Novus Ordo is dead in the water a...I agree that The Novus Ordo is dead in the water and no amount of tinkering with The Rubrics will keep it together.odd riddance i say!Most ,so called ,Catholics in The Novus Ordo are really Protestant anyway and their shelf life is now coming to an end.I went to amenity in my Novus Ordo Church about Mission.Quite simple you would think?Not so .The .mostly,elderly ,late seventies and eighty year olds babbled on about Helpers and Togetherness and upbeat music at Mass.Remember that it was these types who instigated the Destruction of Vatican 11 and they are repeating the same destructive things!Keep The Faith and stay with Tradition.philipjohnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128964006463059159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-21613052014133392322016-01-24T11:13:10.877+00:002016-01-24T11:13:10.877+00:00Of course, there is now. Thank God for Fr Crean OP...Of course, there is now. Thank God for Fr Crean OP and the LMS!Éamonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560394580179348894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-50286543093751599892016-01-23T05:14:00.552+00:002016-01-23T05:14:00.552+00:00The earlier the moment in the calendar you're ...The earlier the moment in the calendar you're dialing back to, the more you can accomplish - if you *really* wish to accomplish it.<br /><br />But that said: At most points in that calendar since the early 60's, a a really effective set of measures would likely have triggered a major schism. Perhaps that would have provided some clarity, however. Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-36418344569890619582016-01-23T04:27:21.002+00:002016-01-23T04:27:21.002+00:00'Mr. Shaw would have been able to curtail each...'Mr. Shaw would have been able to curtail each and every abuse'; Well any idiot would have been able to do that, and Mr. Shaw is not an idiot. The men who were and are Popes in this period were worse than idiots.John Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12689601844788629693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-29091357922829890972016-01-23T01:29:51.766+00:002016-01-23T01:29:51.766+00:00I have read your letter. Thank you, Father, for al...I have read your letter. Thank you, Father, for all you do. God bless you always. Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02461037782982511931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-90205818409183074352016-01-23T01:04:50.188+00:002016-01-23T01:04:50.188+00:00Well, EJ R, I wish I had been pope back then. Mayb...Well, EJ R, I wish I had been pope back then. Maybe I would not have been able to stop the abuses, but there would have been a lot of bishops leaving Rome with black eyes after they came for their visits with me. Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02461037782982511931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-58006774454484060922016-01-22T22:35:11.606+00:002016-01-22T22:35:11.606+00:00You are right; I should have written that there...You are right; I should have written that there's no English translation. Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-56506706890078023592016-01-22T22:33:09.776+00:002016-01-22T22:33:09.776+00:00How fascinating that you assume I'd favour an ...How fascinating that you assume I'd favour an authoritarian solution, when I say quite clearly that this has failed. Joseph Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587987442560784792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-34531522132827971702016-01-22T21:58:19.137+00:002016-01-22T21:58:19.137+00:00Vatican File:http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/...Vatican File:http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/it/apost_letters/documents/hf_p-vi_apl_19660815_sacrificium-laudis.htmlMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07891929132265853017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-89034041591045386412016-01-22T19:53:57.097+00:002016-01-22T19:53:57.097+00:00Alas, if only Mr. Shaw had been Pope, throughout e...Alas, if only Mr. Shaw had been Pope, throughout each of those decades, everything in Catholicism today would be different. Mr. Shaw would have known exactly what to do and how to do it in each given circumstance. We must not doubt that Mr. Shaw would have been able to curtail each and every abuse, and would have stymied each and every disaster since 1965. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369023447527648499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-44351909410718073012016-01-22T19:46:58.986+00:002016-01-22T19:46:58.986+00:00I will be hard, because quite frankly it's a f...I will be hard, because quite frankly it's a form of arrogance when before becoming Pope, he took on authority he did not have (washing feet of both men and women when the rubrics did not allow for such), and knowingly broke liturgical law when he had the authority to change it as Pope. I agree as you say, relative to some of the other issues in the Roman church, it's minor, but the age of lawlessness in the church is something that should not be taken lightly...If the Pope can do whatever he so pleases without limit, God help us....Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-79752382493991075972016-01-22T16:21:41.602+00:002016-01-22T16:21:41.602+00:00Though it may not be a relevant part of the Maundy...Though it may not be a relevant part of the Maundy Thursday liturgy but since it is nevertheless practiced and is there in scripture and more so in the Johannine Gospel, which brings out the deeper meaning of the Sacrament therefore by acting contrary to God's word Pope Francis has proved himself to be man who will change God's word too. He has done it before and continues to do so. If you want to know the depth of its meaning, never explained before by anyone then here it is in this Private Letter to Pope Francis, now made open: https://frconrad.wordpress.com/pope-francis-a-closed-letter-now-open/ Fr. Conrad Saldanhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01993489083223581610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-2005925879466598152016-01-22T14:07:16.352+00:002016-01-22T14:07:16.352+00:00Yes, it is an entirely predictable development alo...Yes, it is an entirely predictable development along entirely predictable lines. The move empties the Mandatum of its traditional theological content (once about the ordained priesthood, which is why 12 men were chosen -- why are 12 people chosen today, if there is no logical link to the priesthood?), but then adopting traditional forms emptied of their theological content and replaced with inclusive pastoral gestures is just what the Novus Ordo does, and how Novus Ordo-types operate.<br /><br />It's a terrible idea, but so was the liturgical reform (or at least the one we got). I shan't waste time weeping about it. It's not my rite.Sean W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10085184456489549231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30490922.post-72434534999331162572016-01-22T12:18:18.437+00:002016-01-22T12:18:18.437+00:00Umm... Sacrificium Laudis is on the Vatican websit...Umm... Sacrificium Laudis is on the Vatican website. This link will lead you right there: http://tinyurl.com/SacLaudis<br /><br />You're right about it not being in AAS, though. It was apparently published in Notitiae, which is an authoritative source for liturgical documents & instructions but hardly for an Apostolic Letter. Perhaps someone tried to bury it...Éamonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560394580179348894noreply@blogger.com