Monday, May 19, 2014

Bishop Schneider in West Grinstead

On Saturday the LMS Pilgrimage to Our Lady of Consolation at West Grinstead, Sussex, took place, led by Bishop Athanasius Schneider.

The Pax: Bishop Schnieider embraces Fr Sean Finnegan, the Assistant Priest

There were about 140 people at Mass; which was followed, after a break for lunch, by a talk from Bishop Schneider and Benediction.

Ecce Agnus Dei
The Shrine of Our Lady of Consolation has long been a pilgrimage venue for the Latin Mass Society. It was the first offical Marian shrine after the Protestant Revolt, and it has the first statue of Our Lady crowned by Papal Mandate - in this case Pope Leo XIII. (The shrine images at Willesden, Caversham, and Walsingham have all also been crowned in this way.)


Another thing worth taking in on a visit to West Grinstead is the Rosary Walk; I have taken a set of photographs of this which you can see here. It was clearly done by the same artist as did the one at the Franciscan Retreat Centre at Pantasaph (my photos of which are here).

Blessing at the end of Mass.

Bishop Schneider will be speaking at the LMS One Day Conference on Saturday 24th: BOOK HERE.

He will also be leading the LMS Pilgrimage to Ramsgate on Monday 26th: details here.



  1. Fantastic day - well done!

  2. Thank you so much for organising this brilliant event.

  3. Thank you both for coming! As for organising it, my contribution was limited. Thanks are due to Annie Mackie-Savage, the Local Rep, and Gordon Dimon the MC and the others.

  4. At the Pontifical Institute of Liturgy, University of San Anselm , Rome Benedictine priest-professors, offer Holy Mass.

    'The Institute was canonically established by the Apostolic See as a faculty of Sacred Liturgy of the Pontifical University of St.Anselm in order to promote liturgical science through research and teaching.' According to a brochure of the Institute ' it is empowered to grant, in the name of the Holy Father, the academic degrees of License and Doctorate in liturgy (Statutes 127). The programme of studies considers the Eucharistic(sic), the sacraments and sacramentals , the liturgy of the Hours and the Liturgical year under their theological, historical , spiritual and political aspects.'

    So they promote a theological understanding of the Holy Mass.

    I spoke to the Dean of Theology (1) and he answered the following TWO QUESTIONS:

    1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2014 ? YES or NO

    2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ? THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS OR YES THERE ARE KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS.

    How would Bishop Athanasius Schneider and the priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass in England answer the two questions?

    1. Maybe you should come to the LMS conference on Saturday and ask him.

    2. I would like to be there but I am here in Rome.
      I did send queries to Bishop Athanasius in his diocese but received no reply or acknowledgment.

  5. 1.
    October 16, 2013

    1. Maybe Feeneyites should not pollute reputable blogs with their agenda driven drivel?

  6. I am not saying the same about traditionalists who are Cushingites.

    Whether you are a Cushingite or a Catholic, whatever, why should Catholics assume that ' a ray of Truth' (Nostra Aetete 2) is an explicit exception to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as it was known to the saints and popes who offered the Traditional Latin Mass '

    Why do young people in Southwark ,for example, who have a religious vocation, have to affirm that they can see the dead saved with ' a ray of the Truth' and so every one does not have to enter the Church as Fr.Leonard Feeney and the popes and saints alleged - and which Cushing denied.

    Why must I be a Cushingite like you and affirm heresy, that of there being known, visible exceptions to a defined dogma ?

  7. Rad Trad /Queen of Puddings,

    May be participants at the May 24 London conference will also not be aware of the Cushing-Jesuit Factual Error.

    Fr.John Hunwicke and participants at the Roman Forum Meeting this summer will be unaware of the Cushing-Jesuit Factual Error

    March 20, 2014
    Always in the interpretation of Vatican Council II we have to be aware of the Cushing-Jesuit Factual Error

    From school to university Catholic children are taught the false premise : Fort Worth Diocese

    Ave Maria University of Tom Monaghan is making the same objective mistake as Fort Worth diocese

    Chaplains at FMC used the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II : cause of tension with faculty

    Summorum Pontificum does not say if Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with or without the false premise

    Students at Fischer More College attend Holy Mass offered by priests in public heresy?

    Impediments to offering Holy Mass